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It is not closing time in terms of the Colts defensive office.

It is actually open for business because they are conducting interviews.

Trying to find a new defensive coordinator and joining us now on the Express Pro Tire and Auto Guestline, Stephen Holder from ESPN.com.

Stephen, let's begin with this. The latest in terms of the search, those that you know of who have been contacted and you would expect will be getting an interview would be who uh the ones that i that i'm aware of i believe dennis allen steve wilkes

lou an arummo most recently of the Cincinnati Bengals.

I am, a couple of names are escaping me right now.

Is Wake Bartondale on the list?

I don't know that. I don't know that.

And I've been a little out of pocket today, so I apologize if there's been news reported that I, that I'm not aware of, but not to my knowledge.

I do think, though, while I'm not aware of them talking to him, I would say that the styles

of these other candidates that we do know of, they do have a lot in common with Wink Martindale, you know, which I think is a very

big change for the Colts and in the style of defense they have played in the Chris Ballard era.

Okay, can you expand on for our audience, Stephen, can you expand on the style so far that it would appear they may be going

towards based on who they've talked to and then how that's different than the style that we

have become accustomed to seeing?

Right.

So let's go back to Chuck Pagano, right?

He was a sort of an old school Baltimore

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