Certainly in the winter months, it's been warmer than expected.

Last night, Jaris Walker was hotter than expected because we haven't seen that out of him.

We talked about it to begin the show.

We'll continue that conversation now on the Express Pro Tire and Auto Guest Line where Tony East joins us.

Of course, you can read all of his work with Forbes.

He does the locked on podcast as well, talking about the Pacers, joins us on this program with regularity.

And Tony, I will begin with this.

Are we starting to see Jaris Walker getting minutes because he finally is finding his confidence?

Or is he finding his confidence because he's finally getting minutes?

I kind of asked that last night, right?

Because we've heard from like every player on the team at some various point over the

last year and a half that they've had to chat with him just to say like, hey man, like,

be patient.

Like your time's coming.

We need you to be ready when that comes.

Right?

And last night, I mean, he's had, he's played every game this year.

Of course, he's had chances all season long. But last night was like his moment of that, right, where he got big minutes.

They needed him to be good against a bigger team. And he had maybe his best game ever,

if not one of his best two or three, certainly his best offensive game. And all of them

showered him with praise in their post-game interviews. He, of course, got, had a, was speaking to us on the podium.

So in some ways, it's him being patient and taking advantage of that opportunity.

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