Does politics ever get you down? Or winds you up? You care about the state of democracy

but can hardly bear to listen to the news. I'm Raphael Bear. I've been a political journalist

for 30 years and I've had more than my share of toxic debates and polarisation.

So I wrote a book. Politics a Survivor's Guide. It tells the story of how we got into this

mess and offers hope for a way out of it. That's Politics a Survivor's Guide. You're antidote

to despair in bookshops now.

So what we've decided to do is I wanted to take a look back at the year. We've gone

through most of 2019 at this point and I thought it would be nice to take a little bit of time

to take stock of some of the material that we've covered, some of the really interesting people

that we've talked to. And so in this episode and the episode that'll be coming tomorrow,

our Black Friday episode, we're going to be taking you through a tour of some of the best of

the damage report in 2019. Not necessarily quality-wise but what we're going for doing this

show. And so in this episode, we're going to be showing you some of my favorite interviews

from throughout the year. Do you have an idea of the sorts of people that we're trying to talk to,

the sorts of perspectives we're trying to bring to you every day? And we're going to be starting off

with the interview I did a little bit earlier this year with University of Michigan Professor David

Dunning. I brought him on to talk about the Dunning Krueger effect, named after him because one of

the goals that I had for the show early on was that I wanted to expose people to psychological

principles, political psychological principles so that then they could analyze the behavior and

activity of politicians and voters and learn a little bit from it. The Dunning Krueger effect is

a really interesting one that is very applicable to our president and honestly a lot of other politicians.

And so here's that interview. The Dunning Krueger effect, it is complex people are just starting to

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