Ted Audio Collective.

This archival episode of Design Matters originally dropped in November of 2023.

When I was in design school, I started seeing the world

through design and it enriched my life.

I got, oh, and this is why a chair looks the way it looks,

and this is why Coca-Cola cans look the way they look and for me fashion has that same thing.

It's like well you can choose to look however you want. Let's think about that. From the TED Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Milman.

For 18 years, Debbie Milman has been talking with designers and other creative

people about what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking

about and working on. On this episode, Stella Bugbee makes the case for why fashion should matter for all of us.

You're invited to this conversation if you want to be on your own terms,

and you should want to cultivate a relationship to fashion and style for

yourself for your life because it's part of life it's really fun.

Stella Bugbee is the Styles Editor at the New York Times.

How does one get to be the Styles Editor at the New York Times?

Well, if you are Stella Bugbee, it has been a winding road through the world of New York media.

Stella got her start in advertising and later became the design director at Domino magazine

just as print was getting overtaken by all things digital.

She then led the relaunch of New York magazine's The Cut,

which became a wildly successful online style

and culture site. Now at the Times, Stella joins me today to talk about her

circuitous journey through the terrain of contemporary media. Stella Bugbee, welcome to

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