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You know what she said to me was hey you know what so yeah he likes to watch me have sex with other people

but he does a lot for me and like so what you know and it makes her feel weird

but if she at any point said I don't want to do this anymore he wouldn't leave her or get angry

because part of her likes it too

From the Ted Audio Collective this is Design Matters with Debbie Milman

For 17 years Debbie Milman has been talking with some of the world's most creative people about what they do

how they got to be who they are and what they're thinking about and working on

and now some of those interviews appear in print in Debbie's brand new book Why Design Matters

Conversations with the world's most creative people

It's coming out in February of this year

In anticipation of the book we're releasing interviews from the archives this month

We thought it would be fun for listeners to hear not only some great interviews but also to hear how the podcast has evolved over the years

So we've been releasing the oldest ones first and proceeding chronologically

In September of 2019 Debbie spoke with writer Lisa Tatium about sex and desire

That's how sex differs from desire with desire you're kind of you fall in love with yourself in a way

as opposed to just having this physical feeling

Lisa Tatium after the break

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Listen in the Ted Radio Hour feed wherever you get your podcasts

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