A new season of Design Matters with Debbie Milman will start soon.

The episode you're about to listen to originally dropped in June of 2020.

It's funny, as I say these words, the female in me, the woman who is raised as a girl is

like, oh don't say that, don't say you want to be a great American writer.

From the Ted Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Milman.

On this episode, Debbie talks with writer Cheryl Stray about her childhood, her career,

and about the value of taking a very long hike.

What happens on the outside, one foot in front of the other, and from the other, also happens

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