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This cycle has been a main point cycle, but we're really sort of like front-running

the learning process now,

where the participants are getting so sophisticated.

The criminals are getting so greedy as we just sort of like saw.

Like there's a certain amount of greed coming now where they just want to extract it all quickly.

They won't, they could wait, you know, for the Malay coin.

They could have waited and, you know, hopefully make it into like a long-term project.

But once they extracted, I think, a lot too quickly, then he disavowed and then it's everyone just pointing fingers.

Joining us now discuss is core contributor and co-founder of Community Memecoin Bonk,

NOMBank, and Salimi Capital founder, Jordie Alexander.

Jordi and NOM, thank you so much for joining us.

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