This is Eric Glass.

On This American Life, we like stories that surprise you.

For instance, imagine finding a new hobby and realizing...

To do this hobby right, according to the ways of the masters,

there's a pretty good chance that you're going to have to bend the law to get the materials that you need.

If not, break it.

Yeah.

To break international laws.

Your life stories, really good ones.

This American Life.

From W.H.Y.Y. in Philadelphia.

I'm Terry Gross with Fresh Air Weekend.

Today, Billy Eilish and Phineas O'Connell,

the sister and brother music partners who are a global phenomenon.

We'll talk about working together, becoming famous in their teens, family, how her voice is changing, and how her signature baggy clothes were inspired by hip-hop.

I would watch those videos and instead of being jealous of the women who get to be around the hot men, I would be jealous

of the hot men. And I wanted to be them. I wanted to dress like them, and I wanted to be able

to act like them. Later, Stephen Colbert and Evie McGee Colbert. They're married. She does

bits with him on a CBS late night show, and they've collaborated on a new cookbook.

Well, I do get to eat what he makes, which is often delicious, always. Often? Often. I would say often.

Well, I'm experimenting. That's coming up on Fresh Air Weekend.

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