Best of - Benazir Bhutto: Paying the Ultimate Price

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🗓️ 11 January 2021

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Most Americans simply could not believe their eyes this week, when a violent mob staged an insurrection in the US Capitol. It was the kind of thing that happens in other countries - where the transfer of power isn't peaceful, and where democracy does not hold. Well that reminded us of one of our first episodes, featuring Benazir Bhutto of Pakistan. Bhutto descended from a political dynasty. Her father was ousted as prime minister, and killed in a coup - in 1977. She survived a coup attempt years later, when she became prime minister. In the end, she paid the ultimate price for her belief in democracy and human rights. Seven years after this interview, she was assassinated, as she campaigned for her third term as prime minister. We certainly don’t mean to overstate comparisons between the United States and Pakistan, or any other country. But we are re-posting this episode from 2015, as a reminder of what we have, and what we have to lose. (c ) American Academy of Achievement 2015-2021

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0:00.0	Hi, it's Alice.
0:03.7	Americans and the whole world watched this week, stunned as a violent mob egged on by President
0:10.3	Trump, breached the United States Capitol to interfere with our
0:14.5	Democratic election process. Whether you call it a coup or an insurrection,
0:19.2	most people simply could not believe it was happening here.
0:24.4	It was the kind of thing that happens in other countries.
0:27.6	Countries where the transfer of power is not a peaceful affair.
0:31.6	Countries where democracy might function for a while until it doesn't.
0:37.3	And that reminded us of one of our earliest episodes about the charismatic and controversial Benazir Bhutto of Pakistan.
0:45.0	Her father, the Prime Minister, was ousted and killed in a coup in 1977.
0:51.0	And years later, when she became Prime Minister herself, there was a coup attempt against
0:56.2	her that failed.
0:58.2	She was willing to pay the ultimate price for her beliefs, and in the end she did. Benazir Bhutto was assassinated
1:05.5	while running for her third term as Prime Minister. We certainly don't mean to
1:10.1	overstate comparisons between the United States and Pakistan or any other country,
1:16.1	but it's always good to remind ourselves of what we have and what we have to lose.
1:38.2	This episode was originally posted in September of 2015. Madamay, this child is gifted, and I heard that enough that I started to believe it. If you have the opportunity, not a perfect opportunity, and you don't take take it you may never have another job.
1:44.4	It all was so clear it was just like the picture started to form itself.
1:49.0	There was no way in which a lie could prevail over the truth, darkness over light, death over life.
1:57.0	Every day I wake up and decide. Today I'm going to love my life.
2:02.0	Decide. My advice is if they're going to break your leg once
2:07.0	when you go in that place stay out of there. And then along come these differential experiences
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