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This is Sarah Stewart Holland.

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Thank you for joining us for Pantsuit Politics. Hello. Hello and welcome to a special episode of Pantsuit Politics.

This is Maggie. I'm the Director of Community Engagement here at Pantsuit Politics and before you listen to today's

episode I wanted to share with you a little about why you're hearing this

episode in your feet again. We polled our premium community for the episodes that stood out to them from each quarter of 2023.

This conversation originally aired in March and today's episode, Why Ukraine Still Matters with Marie Ivanovich was a standout favorite.

Maria Ivanovich served as the United States Ambassador to Ukraine from 2016 to 2019

and that is just one piece of a long dedicated career in public service that she's documented in her book, Lessons from the Edge.

I have thought about this conversation many times since it first aired in March.

I have thought about civil society, not just in

Ukraine but in America and how the chats I have with my neighbors, the holiday

gatherings that can feel like a burden in a busy schedule.

And the times when we come together as community

are an important backbone of our democracy.

I've thought about accountability and corruption

and what it looks like in our country and internationally.

And I feel grateful because as disappointing as it can be to hear about the ways

that institutions have failed us, I feel heartened to know that in America, sometimes when we're facing

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