Best of 2022: Why our man in Moscow had to leave
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The Times
3.9 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 28 December 2022
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
In the week between Christmas and New Year, we’re listening back to some of our favourite episodes of 2022.
As the Ukraine war progressed, journalists, activists and critics were forced to flee the country. But as Putin’s grip on the media tightened, what was it like for the people who were left? And when does it become too dangerous to stay?
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, it's David Aronovich. All this week we're bringing you a selection of our best episodes of 2022. |
| 0:07.0 | Today's story was first broadcast in July. Five months into Putin's war, our Moscow correspondent was faced with a difficult choice. |
| 0:22.0 | It's been five months since Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine. |
| 0:31.0 | And in those early days, reports of protests in Russia filtered through to the outside world. |
| 0:40.0 | But since then, the Kremlin has cracked down on dissent. |
| 0:45.0 | The parliament passed legislation banning the spread of information critical of Russia's war or Russia's military. |
| 0:52.0 | Violations could carry up to 15 years in prison. |
| 0:56.0 | Overnight, for most independent journalists, both domestic and foreign, it had simply become too risky to stay in the country that many called home. |
| 1:08.0 | My life's splitting two parts before February 24 and after. |
| 1:13.0 | It was better for us to be free and to continue reporting instead of being in jail. |
| 1:20.0 | I didn't want to do it. I liked being journalists. I don't want to leave my job. And I said, okay, I will step down, I will move to Paris and I can avoid the propaganda. |
| 1:35.0 | But what was Russia like for the few that remained? |
| 1:39.0 | You hear someone on the stairs at midnight or the lift creaking in the middle of the night, you think, is that for me? |
| 1:45.0 | And when does it become too dangerous to stay? |
| 1:51.0 | You're listening to stories of our times from the times and the Sunday times. |
| 1:57.0 | I'm Manvine Rana. Today, why our man in Moscow had to leave. |
| 2:07.0 | How do I introduce myself? I'm not the Moscow Crispy. |
| 2:11.0 | I'm that foreign correspondent. |
| 2:13.0 | It's a very good point. What is your time? |
| 2:15.0 | For reasons that will become clear, joining me in the studio in London today is... |
| 2:21.0 | Hello, my name is Mark Bennett. The time is Sunday times is Moscow correspondent in exile. |
| 2:33.0 | Mark, before you became the correspondent in exile, you had quite an extraordinary time in your last phase in Moscow. |
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