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Best of 2019: She Once Thought She Was a Man. Now She’s Fighting the Patriarchy.

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🗓️ 1 January 2020

⏱️ 17 minutes

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When she was around 13, Eliana Bookbinder began questioning her gender after reading a lot online. But in time, she came to realize she was a woman—and now she’s fighting for feminism. Daniel Davis and Katrina Trinko interview Bookbinder to learn more about her journey. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is the Daily Signal Podcast and I'm Kate Trinko. We're on a short hiatus for the holidays, but we wanted to share one of our favorite interviews from 2019 with you.

0:14.4

We'll be back to our regular programming on Monday January 6th.

0:20.4

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0:24.0

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0:26.0

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0:30.0

breaking down the cases, personalities, and gossip at the Supreme Court.

0:35.6

Joining us today is Eliana Bookfinder, a young woman who is a member of the Women's

0:40.0

Liberation Front and who had her own gender identity struggle as a young adult.

0:45.2

Aliana, thanks for joining us today.

0:47.1

Thanks for having me.

0:48.2

Okay, so when did you first start to think that you were a man and what made you think that?

0:54.0

Probably I started thinking that around when I was 12 or 13.

0:59.0

I'd had a lot of issues.

1:01.0

I had very masculine interests. I wasn't super comfortable with my body. I was very, very

1:07.1

uncomfortable with feminine clothing and makeup, things like that. And I sort of started to think okay maybe I'm not actually a girl maybe I'm actually a boy

1:19.7

And did you talk to anyone about feeling that, like tell your friends or your parents or anything?

1:24.6

I didn't. I kept it mostly to myself. I think entirely to myself until a few years later.

1:31.8

I did read a lot about it online, although I never actually

1:36.8

mustered up the nerve to post and receive feedback. So when did you begin to actually identify as a man and how did that process come about?

1:48.0

What happened was I was reading a lot. I was on Tumblr and Facebook and also a blogging sort of community that I followed.

1:56.0

And I was seeing a lot of stuff about how, you know, being trans, you know, it's about not fitting in with the gender roles you're assigned, you know, not being

2:07.0

very feminine woman or very masculine man, and like, it's all about how, you know, you feel about your gender identity and I remember thinking

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