Hi We the People listeners. Over our holiday break we're bringing you some of our favorite live events from 2018.

On today's episode, we bring you host Jeffrey Rosen's conversation with Pulitzer Prize winning historian Doris Kearns Goodwin.

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Today, we will hear from Pulitzer Prize winning historian Doris Kearns Goodwin in conversation

with National Constitution Center President and CEO Jeffrey Rosen, as she invails her newest book,

Leadership in Turbulent Times. Goodwin shares insights from five decades of presidential

scholarship on Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, FDR, and

Lyndon Johnson and share some personal stories from her time with L.B.J.

Joining us from the center, here's Jeffrey Rosen.

Ladies and gentlemen, please join me in welcoming the great Doris-Kurs Goodwin. I've been so looking forward to the conversation.

It's such an honor to meet you.

I want to just begin with that moment in the LBJ book that I remember as a high school kid where he's left the White House,

you're at the ranch, you get up at 5.30 every morning and get dressed.

He comes into your bedroom and gets in your bed because he's cold and afraid and he wants to talk about what it was like to be president and what was that experience like and how did that convince you to become a presidential historian? that

how did that convince you to become a presidential

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