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Right when you think that everything's looking up in Chicago, there's optimism, there's hope, forget about all the old stuff, this is the year.

Ben Johnson's your coach, Caleb Williams, your quarterback, everything's good to go.

Wickershammed.

Uh-oh.

Seth Wickersham of ESPN drops a bomb yesterday.

And there's a lot to it.

So there's a book that's coming out in September titled American Kings,

a biography of the quarterback, and it chronicles the journey

of a bunch of players at both college and the NFL from the past as well.

So quarterbacks from all different landscapes.

And Caleb Williams is featured prominently in some of the excerpts that have made the rounds. Quotes from the book are his dad, Carl Williams, who went to great lengths to try and circumvent the NFL draft. He wanted to give his son an opportunity to choose his future employer because he was worried about the bear's history of not really working well with

quarterbacks quote i don't want my son playing for the bears the bears the bears are where

quarterbacks go to die uh carl williams his dad spoke with archie manning uh who helped

obviously eli manning get to new york and and out of control of the san diego chargers

uh there was even a conversation about potentially going to the UFL so that he could become

an unrestricted free agent in 2025 to be able to pick a team.

He wasn't happy with the rookie wage scale.

And then the most interesting stuff of all this is that he thought, well, maybe I'll just blast the organization like John Elway did an 83 to the Baltimore Colts and just go public with it like the Elways did back then.

And then Caleb Williams was at the Combine and all of a sudden realized, hey, man, I get along great with Kevin O'Connell,

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