BEST MOMENTS of Ep. 144 with Odi
Express Yourself Black Man
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🗓️ 24 November 2025
⏱️ 10 minutes
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In XYBM 144, I sit down with Professor Odi — a psychotherapist doing incredible work with Black men in our community @blackmansafehaven. For his third appearance — and part two of a two-part series — Odi returns to share new insights on his personal stories of depression, suicidal ideation, and heartbreak, offering advice to Black men struggling with self-worth and societal expectations.
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| 0:00.0 | We negotiate our self-worth when we tell that lie. |
| 0:06.1 | We invalidate. |
| 0:09.2 | We self-betray when we tell that lie. |
| 0:11.7 | Right, right? |
| 0:13.1 | Because what I believe that the underpinning of that response is, once again, I'm so used to my needs not being met, |
| 0:25.3 | or I'm so used to compulsively performing masculinity in such a way where I have to present as |
| 0:33.0 | strong. I have to present as put together. I have to present as these things that if somebody were to ask me |
| 0:39.4 | do I need something, I'm supposed to say no. |
| 0:43.5 | I'm supposed to |
| 0:44.9 | no, bro, that's a fucking lie. |
| 0:49.0 | Like, you know you're not cool. |
| 0:50.6 | You know you're not good. |
| 0:52.0 | Oh, what's talking about it going to do? |
| 0:53.4 | Talking about it, not going to fix it. |
| 0:57.2 | External processing is one of the most effective ways to problem solve. |
| 1:04.0 | External processing is one of the most effective ways to problem solve. |
| 1:07.9 | Whether you are doing a math problem, whether you are brainstorming, |
| 1:11.1 | whether you are attempting to figure out a business plan. Once again, external processing is one |
| 1:16.6 | of the most effective ways to problem solve. The issue is that you do not want to be seen |
| 1:22.0 | as incompetent. You don't want to be seen as non-valuble. You don't want to be seen as not valuable. You don't want to be seen as somebody who |
| 1:30.1 | cannot do. Once again, you are engaging in people-pleasing behaviors. The way in which we discuss |
| 1:37.3 | adultifying black boys, the point at which we begin having the conversation of adultification is when we begin exposing them to the neglect or harm and abuse that we experience as black men that we believe made us better man. |
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