BEST MOMENTS of Ep. 143 with Odi
Express Yourself Black Man
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🗓️ 10 November 2025
⏱️ 8 minutes
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In XYBM 143, I sit down with Professor Odi — a psychotherapist doing incredible work with Black men in our community @blackmansafehaven. For his third appearance — and part one of a two-part series — Odi returns to share new insights on the emotional landscape of Black men, exploring why so many feel unseen, unheard, and misunderstood. We unpack the “deficit model” that defines Black men by what they lack, the male loneliness epidemic, and how patriarchy harms everyone — especially those it claims to empower.
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| 0:00.0 | Bell Hooks identified that even when I went with my partner to some of our therapy sessions, |
| 0:08.6 | it was difficult for me to hear the harm that he had experienced or it was difficult for me |
| 0:14.1 | to hear his emotional reality because it disrupted my perception of who it is that I believe that he was supposed |
| 0:23.0 | to be for me. |
| 0:24.0 | It disrupted my perspective of what it is that men were, right? |
| 0:30.2 | So whenever, and I've been thinking about this as well, I don't believe that we actually examine pay or I don't believe |
| 0:40.0 | that it's very common, that we identify patriarchy as a, not only just a system of operation, |
| 0:47.6 | but a system of class. Right. So there is the retort that men created the patriarchy. |
| 0:56.1 | I don't disagree, but which men, right? |
| 1:01.0 | And it's not, it's not- |
| 1:01.8 | That's an important distinction. |
| 1:03.8 | Yes, it's not just white men. |
| 1:07.2 | It is wealthy, land-owning, hoarding white men. |
| 1:11.6 | It is the white men who are in power, right? |
| 1:14.6 | Patriarchy is a system of power, first and foremost. |
| 1:17.6 | So when we have these marginalized identities of men |
| 1:20.6 | who are engaging in this system of patriarchy |
| 1:22.6 | and getting a negative return on their investment, |
| 1:25.6 | that's also the reason why a number of men are |
| 1:27.8 | angry, because they're participating in this system that was not designed for you to participate in. |
| 1:32.8 | It was designed to extract labor from you and sell you this dream, the same way that y'all be selling |
| 1:38.4 | women in these dreams, it sold you a dream that said, if you work hard enough, if you dominate enough |
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