So Kirk Cousins came on with me, long form, about an hour with him on Friday on my podcast.

He's terrific guy was very nice to give me that much time. And so I broke down like two parts

of it, you know, a 20 minute slug here and then another 15 minutes of it.

Some of the stuff that I thought you guys would enjoy, or some of the stuff that really

some of you said you enjoyed the most. It starts with me, and you'll hear the setup and

the question, but it starts with just kind of talking about, you know, kind of weirdly, the polarizing player that he's become in the league over the last 10 years.

I think you have been one of the more interesting players of your era from this perspective.

You've obviously been a very good player, and you've been a player that's been incredibly well-liked, highly respected from peers and those in football.

But when it comes to fans, you've been one of the more polarizing players, I think, of the last decade.

Do you have a theory as to why that is?

Yeah, I think there were a few variables that were kind of all coming together to the degree that that happened that created that.

I think one, being a fourth round pick, you know, if you're a top five pick, it would seem you're kind of given the benefit of the doubt, you're somewhat innocent until proven guilty.

I think when you're a fourth round pick, there's a little bit of the opposite.

You know, I think it was something that while, you know, we had success, it tended to be, you know,

it wasn't 15 and 2, it wasn't 14 and 3.

It wasn't so much success that, you know, I'm holding up a Lombardi and there's really no,

no room left to criticize.

I think if you go 9 and 8, 9 and 7, you know, you're still giving yourself that room to be criticized some.

So, you know, and I think it's a little bit of all of that combined.

And then I think when you do, you know, go on franchise tags and you don't go the traditional

path of just signing a five-year deal, it probably led for more time to discuss it than

if you just sign the five-year deal, everybody else signed,

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