Best Friends Don't Make For the Best Bosses

Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel

Esther Perel Global Media

Mental Health, Society & Culture, Self-improvement, Education, Health & Fitness

4.7 • 15.6K Ratings

🗓️ 7 October 2024

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

They have been best friends for years. He opened a book store and she was his first employee. Things were great until they weren't. She left to preserve the friendship- but a year later they still haven’t talked about what went wrong with them professionally. Esther talks to her about how to start a different kind of business relationship if they were willing to give this another go. This is a special episode of How's Work?, a one-time, 45-60 minute interventional phone call with Esther. It was edited for time, clarity, and anonymity. If you have a question you would like to talk through with Esther, send a voice memo to [email protected]. Esther’s two new courses on desire are now available inside The Desire Bundle. Go to https://www.estherperel.com/course-bundles/the-desire-bundle to learn more about Bringing Desire Back and Playing with Desire. Want to learn more? Receive monthly insights, musings, and recommendations to improve your relational intelligence via email from Esther: https://www.estherperel.com/newsletter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome, welcome.
0:02.0	Thank you.
0:03.0	Shall we listen together to the question that you send and then if there's anything you want to edit, we can do so too.
0:11.0	Okay? Yeah, let's go.
0:14.0	My friend, who I've known since elementary school, decided to open a bookstore in 2019 and
0:21.0	asked if I would work with him. And I yes and so we opened this bookstore together and it was going really well.
0:29.0	He was the owner and the manager and my boss but it was really just the two of us there for a long time
0:37.4	but things eventually started to feel hard between us he as I mentioned my boss, but he was also my really good friend and we didn't have any systems in place to talk about job performance or anything like that. So from my perspective, he just felt like he would randomly make kind of snippy comments about things he didn't like that I was doing or that I could do better and then I would get defensive and then it would feel tense for a while between us and that was escalating and eventually after a couple of pretty big altercations between us where I was yelling and then he was like mad at me about that. I
1:16.4	decided it was in my best interest to leave and in both of our best interests
1:21.5	really so that we could stay friends.
1:23.0	So I left, I got a new job, and we are still friends,
1:27.0	and I still go and work there sometimes,
1:30.0	but I'm really sad that it didn't work out. And he's really sad that it didn't work out and he's really sad that it didn't work out and
1:38.2	I miss working there. I think I was really good at it and I'm just wondering if there's any scenario, a future scenario where it could be better there between us. Support for where should we begin comes from Cleveau powers smarter digital relationships. You know that feeling when your favorite
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2:59.0	I guess just that I submitted this question a few months ago and then sort of just reconciled to the fact that, you know, it is what it is. I have this new job and things happen the way they were supposed to happen and
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