And he was off a glacier and I was looking out in the tundra at the snow. It's completely

silent. Up the glacier. Oh, this is completely completely true and up the glacier when I was attempting to commune with nature.

We'd seen the Northern Lights the night before right? It was a it was totally amazing trip.

But anyway so we're up we're up the glacial We've seen a volcano, we've seen a geezer.

At the top of the glacier, no sound, nothing. All I could think, and this is true, is bloody hell.

Matthew Clayton slagged off, bring on the empty horses by David Niven on the

last podcast and I didn't challenge him on it. And I presented having to think about bringing on the ones the horses.

And then when I got back to Britain, still bubbling away in my mind, Matthew,

I switched on the telly and there was a there was one of those clip

compilations of appearances by famous Hollywood stars on chat shows

yeah yeah we freelancers often enjoy.

And it was a Niven episode, right?

Niven did 15 minutes material

from bring on the empty horses.

Let me tell you, you would kill for 15 minutes material that good.

But it's fantastic.

That's because it's the second autobiography.

And the second autobiography is always a collection of anecdotes.

They've told the life story.

Now what you roll out for the second book

is you roll out the funny stories you tell over dinner.

And that's what that's what that book is.

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