Welcome to Ponce of America. I'm John Lovett. Today on the show, I had a great conversation

with Senator Bernie Sanders on AI Super PACs and his journey from a kid on a kibbutz in Israel to a senator

trying to prevent weapon sales to Netanyahu and trying to save humanity from robots at the same time.

And then you'll hear my conversation with our friend and journalist Peter Hamby, founding

partner of Puck News and host of the Powers That Be podcast on the Democratic shakeup in Maine,

the governor's race in California, some news on the DNC, and how the left ought to confront political violence.

But first, here's my conversation with Bernie.

Senator Sanders, welcome back to the show.

Good to be with you, John.

So I watched your panel last night on the existential risks of AI.

You had researchers from North America and China.

It was a bracing experience.

There's a, just for people that may not have caught at MIT's Max Tegmark says, we'll be like animals in a zoo.

And then another researcher named David Kruger says zoos, most of us won't be so lucky.

What did you take away?

Why did you want to do this conversation?

Thank you, John, for asking me about that. I am not a tech guy.

But I'm sitting around and I read and I listen to people. And it is clear to me that AI and robotics are the most revolutionary technologies in the history of humanity.

They are going to transform life for every man, woman, and child, certainly in our country and around the world.

How the hell do we ignore that reality?

Why is there not massive discussion about the impact of AI?

For example, all right?

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