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🗓️ 19 December 2025
⏱️ 90 minutes
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(0:00) Bestie intros!
(0:19) Bernie Sanders calls for AI datacenter moratorium, how to solve the negative perception of AI
(17:15) Anti-AI astroturfing: Is the AI sentiment manufactured by special interests?
(32:39) Economy: Unemployment, jobs, inflation, are we primed for a "Golden Age" or not?
(51:44) Dog Corner!
(59:56) China's major AI breakthrough: lithography, impact on the AI race?
(1:19:43) Are the rest of the Besties moving to Texas?
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https://x.com/SenSanders/status/2001057004370948131
https://x.com/RoKhanna/status/2001733168819319167
https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/2001726037848478000
https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/2001320789279203694
https://andymasley.substack.com/p/i-cant-find-any-instances-of-data
https://www.semafor.com/article/12/07/2025/ai-critics-funded-ai-coverage-at-top-newsrooms
https://connecticuthistory.org/ida-tarbell-the-woman-who-took-on-standard-oil/
https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1987238502124409321
https://www.npr.org/2025/12/16/nx-s1-5645023/jobs-employment-labor-market
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/18/cpi-inflation-breakdown.html
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| 0:00.0 | All right, everybody, welcome back to your favorite podcast, the number one podcast, in fact, in the entire universe, the all-in podcast with your besties. |
| 0:11.3 | We're all here. |
| 0:12.0 | It's the original quartet. |
| 0:13.8 | Everybody loves when the core four are here, and we have a docket for you today. |
| 0:19.0 | Guys, we've got to start out with Bernie Sanders. |
| 0:20.7 | I know this is becoming a bit repetitive, but AI is the topic. |
| 0:24.6 | We reached a new level of retardation this week that we cannot avoid. |
| 0:29.6 | Bernie Sanders has a major D-cell pitch, a moratorium on new AI data centers. |
| 0:39.0 | Here's his argument. |
| 0:43.5 | Number one, the billionaires are pushing AI because they want more money in power. |
| 0:46.4 | Number two, it's going to be massive unemployment. |
| 0:53.0 | And he cates, Stario, Elon, saying that AI would replace most jobs. |
| 0:57.2 | Number three, he has an interesting point, actually. |
| 1:01.1 | AI is harmful to kids because it decreases social interaction. Actually, we kind of agree with that one, I think, across the board. But here's his pitch, Sacks. His pitch is, you want your kids using |
| 1:08.5 | these chatbots? No, I've talked to my kids about it. |
| 1:11.2 | Oh, okay. |
| 1:11.9 | We'll get into it. |
| 1:13.4 | We can get into it. |
| 1:13.4 | But I've talked to them about it. |
| 1:14.4 | Look, if you actually look at the data, if you look at what kids are doing, it's so much |
| 1:19.6 | more interactive and engaging for them to talk to their friends on Snap or to watch videos on |
| 1:25.2 | TikTok. |
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