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Bernie Sanders on his anti-Trump resistance

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The Washington Post

Daily News, Politics, News

4.45.1K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Since February, thousands have attended political rallies helmed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont) and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-New York), deemed the “Fighting Oligarchy” tour. Political events with crowds like this don’t have much precedent outside of a presidential campaign. But Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez are hoping to harness anger over the policies of the second Trump administration to push the Democratic Party to support their progressive policies.

Host Colby Itkowitz travels to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, to speak with rallygoers and to sit down with Sanders for an interview. 

Today’s show was produced by Laura Benshoff with help from Emma Talkoff. It was edited by Reena Flores and mixed by Sean Carter. 

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0:00.0

So we're walking through this vast parking lot.

0:05.3

We're passing a lot of stands selling, fighting oligarchy, t-shirts and buttons and hats,

0:12.0

a lot of anti-Trump merchandise.

0:15.3

Last Friday, I traveled to an expo center in central Pennsylvania.

0:18.7

I went with two post reports producers because we wanted to witness firsthand

0:23.3

this new political movement

0:25.1

that's taking shape in response

0:26.5

to the second Trump administration.

0:32.9

Talk to other people.

0:34.8

Talk to your Republican friends.

0:36.5

They don't think that billionaires should get tax breaks.

0:40.3

They don't think that Musk should be destroying Social Security.

0:44.3

So let us stand together.

0:47.3

Let us defeat oligarchy.

0:49.3

Let us defeat authoritarianism and create a government and economy that works for all of us, not just

0:56.3

the few. You might recognize that voice. That's Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders. He, along with New

1:02.3

York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, have been leading these fighting oligarchy rallies all over

1:07.6

the country. They've drawn massive crowds. In some places, I'm talking like

1:11.9

tens of thousands of people. That kind of energy is usually reserved for presidential campaigns.

1:17.9

But right now, these rallies, they're creating an outlet for Democrats and Democratic-leaning

1:22.9

independence to channel their frustrations. They're furious at President Donald Trump, but they're also disillusioned with the Democratic Party.

1:31.1

I mean, if you could describe the Democratic Party in one word, how would you describe it right now?

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