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Malcolm Gladwell here.

This season on Revisionous History, we're going back to the spring of 1988 to a town in northwest Alabama,

where a man committed a crime that would spiral out of control.

And he said, I've been in prison 24, 25 years.

That's probably not long enough.

I didn't kill them.

From Revisionist History, this is The Alabama Murders.

Listen to Revisionous History, The Alabama Murders on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'll tell you something.

And what I like about these hour shows, by the way, we can chat more than a 13-second soundbite, right? Right. All right. Are you ready for another question?

Go ahead. Hit me. Hit me, Bernie. It's the last time you're going to invite me on your show, right?

No, that's not true. I'm thrilled to have you.

Hi, everyone.

I'm Katie Couric, and this is next question.

My guest today, Bernie Sanders, is 84 years old, has spent 34 years in Congress, and he can still pack a rally with people a quarter of his age.

We've talked many times over the years,

and today he even throws a few questions my way. But this moment feels especially urgent for him,

and he argues for America. Bernie's long warned that our politics are being captured by the

wealthy few. From Trump's inauguration stage in January to his

tax cuts for the ultra-rich, that warning seems legitimate. His fighting oligarchy tour with AOC and

other young progressives has become a movement, and his new book, Fight oligarchy, doubles down on

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