With the monthly full money extra, I'm Chris Hill.

Bernie Madoff pulled off the largest Ponzi scheme in the history of the world.

During his trial, prosecutors estimated Madoff's fraud to be worth nearly $65 billion.

So how did he do it?

Diana Enriquez is an award-winning journalist and author of the best-selling book The Wizard

of Lies.

Bernie Madoff and the death of trust.

She interviewed Madoff in prison, and that's when she learned how he was able to seduce

his clients.

You've interviewed Bernie Madoff twice in prison.

Yes.

What does he like?

He's a very pleasant, harmless, seeming man.

And I say that understanding how chilling it is.

If I had met him without any baggage, I would have said, you know, interesting, very

knowledgeable about the market, fun to talk to, low-key, not trying to impress you.

Madoff is a very unusual Ponzi scheme, or Chris.

He's never the most charming man in the room.

He makes you feel like you're the most charming person in the room.

He made me think I was, he acted as if I were the most interesting, most professional reporter

he'd ever met.

He has this gift of showing back to you your very best self, making you feel like you're

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