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The Dig

Bernie and Black Voters with Malaika Jabali and Wendi Muse

The Dig

Daniel Denvir

News, Politics

4.81.5K Ratings

🗓️ 30 May 2019

⏱️ 109 minutes

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Summary

Dan has in-depth discussion on Bernie's approach to race and what he must do to win over Black voters with Malaika Jabali and Wendi Muse. Contrary to conventional wisdom, Sanders isn't unpopular with Black voters. In fact, he has done rather well with young Black people. But to win the primary and beat Biden, he must do a lot better. In particular, Malaika and Wendi argue that Bernie must integrate racial justice into the core of his class struggle agenda, rather than emphasizing it as a separate and siloed issue.

Read Dan's critique of Bernie's immigration agenda jacobinmag.com/2019/04/bernie-sanders-immigrant-rights-border-policy

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the early bird discount rate. Welcome to the Dig, a podcast from Jacobin Magazine.

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My name is Daniel Denver, and I'm broadcasting from Providence, Rhode Island.

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Bernie was at his best recently when he pushed back and pushed back really hard

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against a New York Times journalist who suggested that he

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should regret having shown solidarity to the Sandinista revolution in Nicaragua.

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He was not at his best when asked on at least two occasions about open borders.

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He scoffed that it was a Koch Brothers idea, or something

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threatening to the welfare state. Bernie's stubbornness is his best quality. It's probably his

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worst quality, too. If you've ever listened to this show before, you likely know that I very

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much want Bernie Sanders to be elected president of the

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United States. But far too often, Bernie supporters allow establishment liberal critics to box us

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