I have an interview coming up with the terrific Bernardo Castro, who's, of course, doing more than just about anybody to dispel some silly scientific notions about consciousness.

But, of course, for me, he's not doing enough.

So there's a lot of good exchanges in here, a lot of healthy, fun disagreement.

I know for some people, that's tough.

For me, it's like, how are we going to get

to the truth if we don't dare to disagree with one another, especially people we like and admire

as much as I do, Bernardo.

I just wanted to apologize for last night. If you want to apologize to someone, go and apologize

to her. I must apologize for the advice I If you want to apologize to someone, go and apologize to her.

I must apologize for the advice I gave.

They're neuroscientists.

They don't know everything about everything.

You're apologizing for them.

You cannot apologize for a guy who writes a book.

He's one of the most renowned and brilliant neuroscientists in the world.

They don't need anybody to apologize for them.

If every scientist were like Christoph and Julia,

we would be living in a very different world.

If every scientist was like Eben Alexander,

we'd be living in a dramatically different world.

Now I want to move on to this pre-roll that we're doing, this preparation for the interview.

But before we do it, I have hit the record button.

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