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Hello, in Raphael's bustling portrait of the School of Athens, a kind of imaginary class photo of Greek philosophy's greatest stars, Plato and Aristotle are deep in conversation,

cheerily walking and talking at the same time.

Euclid swivels a compass across a slate, explaining geometry to his students,

while Ptolemy chats ami with pals, spinning a globe in his hands.

The point is philosophy was a sociable business for the Greeks,

and it could happen anywhere in the street at a

party even in a cafe so in today's program we're freeing thinking by heading out of the studio to meet

with three modern philosophers so far i've only got as far as the cafe down the road and there's

no albert camus slouching at the counter here.

But soon I'll be watching the football with Simon Critchley,

and the French philosopher Bernard Henri Levy will tell us

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