Berggren Out, Detroit's December, & Red Wings' Needs ft. Prashanth Iyer - Dec. 18th, 2025
Winged Wheel Podcast - A Detroit Red Wings Podcast
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🗓️ 18 December 2025
⏱️ 88 minutes
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Summary
The Detroit Red Wings have already had their best December in a decade, and the month is only halfway over...
Tune in as we start by recapping Detroit's win over Ilya Sorokin and the New York Islanders, including Alex DeBrincat's heroics and league-leading goal pace, Lucas Raymond's 3 assists, Moritz Seider continuing his award-worthy season, and Axel Sandin-Pellikka's offensive skills on display as John Gibson wins his 6th straight start (4:10). Next, Dylan Larkin & Co. fall to the Utah Mammoth as Cam Talbot, Simon Edvinsson, and more Red Wings across the board struggled, and Todd McLellan's squad failed to execute without the likes of Patrick Kane (though Finnie & Grand Rapids Griffins star John Leonard linked up for a goal) (14:45). Also, the amazing pace in Hockeytown compared to previous years & what lies ahead for the rest of 2025.
After that, we discuss Jonatan Berggren being lost to the St. Louis Blues via waivers, his request to Steve Yzerman to find him a fresh start, and the failure of the 2018 Red Wings Draft Class by Ken Holland & Tyler Wright (Zadina, Veleno, Berggren, etc.) (29:10).
We then are joined by Prashanth Iyer to go over the ramifications of Steve Yzerman and the Detroit Red Wings not trading for Quinn Hughes, what's needed to make the most of Dylan Larkin, Alex DeBrincat, Lucas Raymond, Moritz Seider, Simon Edvinsson, Nate Danielson, Marco Kasper, Axel Sandin-Pellikka, Sebastian Cossa, Trey Augustine, & the rest of Detroit's future. Also, Prashanth's campaign for Moritz Seider to not only get Norris Trophy votes, but also Hart Trophy votes (41:10).
All of that & lots more before we take your questions and comments in our Overtime segment (1:14:05) - enjoy!
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Wingwheel podcast, the number one source for news, analysis, and discussion on the Detroit Red Wings, the NHL, and all things hockey. |
| 0:19.2 | Here are your hosts, Ryan Hanna, |
| 0:21.5 | Brad Criscoe, |
| 0:22.5 | and Evan Lopsinger. |
| 0:28.4 | So when we started this podcast, |
| 0:30.4 | the Red Wings made the playoffs. |
| 0:32.0 | Right. |
| 0:32.4 | They were a playoff team. |
| 0:34.5 | After that, |
| 0:35.6 | they just lost to everybody. |
| 0:43.3 | Then eventually, the Red W wings would just lose very critical games to teams that they were trying to get into the playoffs against |
| 0:46.9 | for many seasons and now the red wings just lose to western conference teams |
| 0:51.9 | so i would say this might be the best iteration of the Red Wings we've seen in almost 10 years. |
| 0:58.6 | I hope this is some kind of like pendulum bell curve thing where they are just losing to fewer and fewer teams. |
| 1:05.3 | It'd be nice. |
| 1:06.1 | We're not the same number of losses, but it'll just be to Western Conference teams. |
| 1:10.3 | The Atlantic and Metro Division record is going to be outstanding. |
| 1:14.4 | I do think it's exceptionally funny that they won the first game against the team that |
| 1:20.5 | they couldn't solve at all the season and the goalie they couldn't solve it all the season. |
| 1:23.9 | And they lost to the team on a back-to-back playing however many time zones across |
| 1:29.8 | the country and that's the one that brad was at sorry brad i do feel bad for hank but i watched that |
| 1:37.2 | game i was like yeah of course they're playing like this with you in the stands right now that's |
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