Bent By Nature - Ep. 9: Promised Land (with Julian Cope)

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Music History, Documentary, Society & Culture, Music

4.7 • 721 Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2021

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

The artist has got to be not like the historian.
The historian’s got hindsight. He can go back and go, “That was a great moment.” But the artist’s got to go, “No, I was there.” It’s like, history is something that happens. You can’t be there at history.
— Julian Cope, May 10, 1991

It’s May of 1991. Deirdre is in London, chatting backstage with post-punk indie underground legend Julian Cope. Cope has just released “Peggy Suicide,” one of the most ambitious and successful albums of his career. And while Deirdre’s in town, they’re hatching plans for Julian to appear on “SNAP!”

But just days after that announcement, “SNAP!” was off the air. Deirdre left KCRW for good in June of 1991. Then she left LA, too, for a while.
The following year, she showed up in rural England to live with Cope and his family. Cope joins Bent By Nature to recount their unique relationship and roles in each other’s lives.

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0:00.0	The artist has got to be not like the historian.
0:07.0	The historian has got hindsight.
0:09.0	He can go back and go, that was a great moment.
0:12.0	But the artist's got to go, I know, I was there.
0:14.0	It's like history is something that happens.
0:16.0	You can't be there out of history.
0:18.0	It's May of 1991, and Deirdre is in London, chatting backstage with the legendary Julian Cope.
0:24.7	Julian has just released Peggy Suicide, one of the most ambitious and successful albums of his career.
0:31.1	And while Deirdre's in town, they're hatching plans for Julian to appear on Snap.
0:35.8	Julian Cope is coming into town the 8th and the 9th of July at the Roxy.
0:40.8	He'll be performing two completely different shows each night.
0:43.7	And the 10th of July, Julian Cope's going to come in here to Snap and do a completely different show.
0:48.8	But just days after that announcement, Snap was off the air.
0:52.7	Djerja left KSRW for good in June of 1991. Then she left
0:57.1	L.A. too for a while. The following year, she showed up in rural England to live with Julian
1:02.1	and his family. I don't remember her saying, I've got five weeks to learn something about myself
1:08.8	in an English countryside.
1:15.0	But she allowed herself to fly once she came here.
1:19.9	I'm Trisha Halloran, and from KCRW, this is Bent by Nature,
1:23.0	Deirdre O'Donohue and The Lost Snap Archives.
1:25.2	Episode 9, Promised Land Hi, this is Julian cope. I'm speaking from the Jockey House in the depths of Middle England.
1:47.0	I'm just very determined to talk whatever limited information I could tell you about Diodra
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