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🗓️ 21 November 2025
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emocleW, emocleW, emocleW to the Distraction Pieces Podcast with Scroobius Pip!
This is your bonus FRIDAY REWIND episode! Today, we catch up with Benjamin Zephaniah, originally episode 353 from 2020-11-11.
Original writeup below:
Pure enjoyment from the Birmingham legend as he and Pip catch up and talk about all things poetry but so much more… Beginning at the beginning of time itself, they move through viruses, “unpredictable” times, nature, the meat industry, finance and politics, squashing Twitter beefs, Bob Marley, doing gigs and slowly finding his crew, Life & Rhymes and everything contained within, finding and celebrating music in the words, performance poetry vs page poetry and of course, Peaky Blinders! Amazing. Commence listening immediately.
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| 0:00.0 | Emmo Clue, Emow Clue, Emow Clue. Welcome to the Rewind episode, by the way. |
| 0:06.1 | This is The Distraction Pieces Podcast. This is your Friday episode and it's a rewind. |
| 0:10.4 | And I'm joined this week. Well, I was joined in 2020, but you're hearing it now. |
| 0:16.3 | I was joined by Benjamin Zephaniah. May he rest in peace. What a legend. An absolute legend. |
| 0:23.9 | I was so pleased to get to have this conversation. There's been a few podcasts I've got to do with |
| 0:29.6 | people have passed since, and I feel so lucky to have spent some time in their presence. |
| 0:34.6 | Benjamin's an example. Howard Marks is an example. But it's a beautiful and |
| 0:39.5 | powerful thing. It really makes you, it makes me appreciate getting to have these conversations. |
| 0:46.4 | You know, I've mentioned before that sometimes, you know, I'm putting them out every week. |
| 0:51.1 | You kind of don't take a chance to smell the roses, but to get to talk with a legend |
| 0:55.7 | like Benjamin was something special, and I thought this is really one that needs to |
| 1:01.8 | see the light of day again. So I hope you enjoy this. My chat from November 2020 with |
| 1:08.5 | Benjamin Zephani. Are we rolling? |
| 1:25.6 | Well, that's perfect. |
| 1:29.4 | I mean, let's continue. |
| 1:36.1 | Before we got recording, you were telling me about the Spanish flu, because, yeah, very different times. |
| 1:36.6 | I was fascinated. |
| 1:41.5 | You were just saying how the reason it was called the Spanish flu. |
| 1:47.0 | Well, yeah, I'm no expert on it. But, yeah, the Spanish flu was called the Spanish flu? Well, yeah, I'm no expert on it, but yeah, the Spanish flu was called the Spanish flu because Spain was one of the few countries, Western countries, that didn't have censorship |
| 1:53.0 | during the First World War. |
| 1:55.0 | And so thousands of British soldiers were dying of it and American soldiers, but they weren't told about it. |
| 2:02.0 | Wow. |
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