Benjamin Nathans on Alexei Navalny
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🗓️ 27 March 2024
⏱️ 51 minutes
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Benjamin Nathans is a professor of Russian and Soviet history at the University of Pennsylvania, with a particular specialty in the history of Russian and Soviet dissidents. He joined Lawfare Editor-in-Chief Benjamin Wittes to talk about the legacy of Alexei Navalny, his life and death, and how Navalny was similar to and different from other dissidents, both recent and historic. They talked about how his death was related to the sham elections in Russia and the protests that he earned in response to those elections, whether there is anybody who can carry the flag that he bore going forward, and the future of the Russian liberal movement.
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| 0:59.0 | Qualifying income level may be higher in some circumstances. And I think Navalny's calculus was, if he didn't return to Russia if he essentially accepted the Putin |
| 1:16.1 | government's permission for him to leave and in his case go to Germany for |
| 1:20.4 | medical care and remained in Germany or somewhere else in the West. |
| 1:25.0 | That he would be betraying his own loyalty to his country and he was most definitely a Russian |
| 1:32.2 | Patriot. most definitely a Russian patriot. But more than that he would be sending a |
| 1:36.7 | message of defeat to any actual or potential followers and allies inside Russia. |
| 1:44.0 | And that there was very little he could do outside Russia to influence the situation. |
| 1:50.0 | I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the Law Fair Podcast March 27th, 2024. |
| 1:58.0 | Benjamin Nathans is a professor of Russian and Soviet history at the University of Pennsylvania. |
| 2:06.3 | He has a particular specialty in the history of Russian and Soviet dissidents. He joined me in the virtual jungle studio to talk about the |
| 2:17.6 | legacy of Alexei Navalny, his life and death. We talked about how Navalny was similar to and different from other dissidents, |
| 2:29.1 | both recent and historic. We talked about how his death was related to the sham elections and the protests that he earned in response to those elections. |
| 2:41.0 | We talked about whether there was anybody who could carry the flag |
| 2:46.2 | that he bore going forward and the future of the Russian liberal movement. |
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