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slash UK slash AI for people. Welcome to The Untold Story.

I'm Martha McCallum, and today I'm joined by Benjamin Hall, who is obviously one of our greatest war correspondents and reporters.

And he has now written his second book about all of the

big changes in his life over the last several years. The first book was called Saved. It was a New York

Times bestseller about what happened during the bombing in Ukraine when he was covering the war for us

there. And this new book is called Resolute,

How We Humans Keep Finding Ways to Beat the Toughest Ods. Welcome, Ben. Thank you.

Great to have you here. You know, I have been going through the book, and I'm looking

forward to reading the whole thing, but the opening sequence about you deciding to go back to see the doctor who saved your life is an extraordinary story. Tell us a little bit about what that was like and what his reaction was when he saw you walk in the room. You know, I knew very early that I wanted to go back to Ukraine. Like I always knew that if you're going to recover from injuries like this, that you mustn't hide from them. You must face them. You must always keep thinking about them. And that way, you know, they don't build up inside you. And so going back to Ukraine was important to me. And one of the places I want to go is to meet the person, the doctor, who saved my life.

Now, on the night that he saved my life, it was at this forward military operating base,

and he was patrolling around the hospital with AK-47 because the Russians were close.

And so he was both doing operations on me to keep me alive. And he was also protecting

the hospital as well. Incredible story. But when I finally went back there and met him, I walked in the

door and he just looked at me and he started crying. And he said he couldn't believe I was still

alive. He said, you were so close to death. We thought you were gone. He wasn't sure I was going to make

the evacuation from the country. And we just had this conversation about how, you know, not only

was I better, but I'd gone back walking on my prosthetic legs. And what he wanted to know, one of

the reasons I wrote the book, is to talk about that ability

to get through anything.

No matter how bad and dark things can get, you can find a way through and you can come

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