Ben Woodruff on Skinwalker Ranch Part 2: Dire Wolves, Portals, Cryptids and the Evidence
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๐๏ธ 10 April 2026
โฑ๏ธ 79 minutes
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Summary
In Part 2 of my conversation with Skinwalker Ranch biologist Ben Woodruff, we go deeper into some of the strangest claims connected to the ranch.
Ben discusses portals, cryptid sightings, unusual animal behaviour, cattle mutilation theories, supposed time anomalies, and the biological effects he says have been observed on the property. We also get into the dire wolf story, DNA questions, black jaguar claims, and the challenge of separating genuine anomalies from misidentifications, lens flares, and exaggeration.
This is the more detailed and more controversial half of the discussion, as Ben lays out where he thinks the strongest evidence sits, what he believes skeptics get wrong, and why some of the most interesting questions around Skinwalker Ranch are still unresolved.
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| 0:00.0 | So is that the most incredible event that has happened to you you've witnessed on the ranch, |
| 0:06.8 | either that you can talk about or is there something that you can't, which is similar? |
| 0:12.5 | There's things that are, there's things I can't talk about yet, like animals that don't exist |
| 0:20.5 | that have been caught on camera, |
| 0:21.9 | and I'll have to leave it at that. But it's filmed, and I think the intention is to release |
| 0:26.0 | that information. And also, it's harder because, again, things with bacteria, all these small |
| 0:36.0 | animals that just die, we had two quail basically fall out of the sky. |
| 0:43.3 | And their beaks were, the top of the beak was bashed in on both of them, and the lower mandible was not. |
| 0:50.7 | And they fell out of the sky, were right on the ground, right next to a fire ant hill. |
| 0:56.0 | And for a week, the fire ants didn't bother them, didn't touch them, and they stayed flexible. |
| 1:00.6 | They never dried out. |
| 1:01.6 | They never turned stinky. |
| 1:03.1 | And the ants left them alone. |
| 1:04.8 | So we just put them in the freezer after a week. |
| 1:07.1 | It's like little things don't die. |
| 1:10.6 | Or sorry, little things don't decompose. And and big things do but big things kind of follow a different set of rules |
| 1:15.9 | That anytime where the laws of because I want to know what the rules are what are the rules of existence and I have these in my head of how |
| 1:30.0 | Things work and on the ranch those are not the rules of existence? And I have these in my head of how things work. And on the ranch, |
| 1:38.1 | those are not the rules. And so anything that breaks those rules messes with my head and is profound to me. It might not be showy on film. Like that other one that we talked about that bubble that kind of dome over the |
| 1:46.9 | ranch and it moves it moves I don't know it's like I'm about a mile wide and it |
| 1:51.8 | moves a little like I don't know Mike it maybe can go out you know 20 feet give or |
| 1:57.4 | take the ants outside of that make a normal ant hill. The ants inside of that |
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