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The Town with Matthew Belloni

Ben Winston Refuses to Declare Late-Night TV Dead

The Town with Matthew Belloni

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.3847 Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2023

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Matt is joined by Ben Winston, executive producer of 'The Late Late Show With James Corden' and the 2023 Grammys, to talk about the end of Corden’s show—which concludes its eight-year run this week—and Winston makes his case for why the late show format should still exist as we transition into the digital age of television. They discuss misperceptions about how his show makes money for Paramount Global, why these shows need to air on broadcast TV rather than online, whether or not a new late show can be successful, and much more. Matt finishes the show by making a prediction for the upcoming movie ‘Barbie’ after attending CinemaCon. For a 20 percent discount on Matt’s Hollywood insider newsletter, ‘What I’m Hearing ...,’ click this link: puck.news/thetown Email us your thoughts! [email protected] Host: Matt Belloni Guest: Ben Winston Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Theme Song: Devon Renaldo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Ben Solac and I host the Ringer NFL Draft Show with Danny Khypitz and Craig Horbeck.

0:05.0

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0:10.0

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0:13.0

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0:16.0

You know where that is.

0:24.4

An ice cold beer.

0:26.6

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0:29.3

It's Budweiser.

0:31.5

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0:36.9

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0:41.0

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0:42.9

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0:45.1

Please drink responsibly.

0:46.3

For the facts, visit drinkaware.com.com.

0:51.4

It is Wednesday, April 26th.

0:57.1

A couple months ago, Ben Winston, who was producing the Grammys,

1:01.9

came on the town to talk about the future of award shows. They've been a staple of TV for decades,

1:06.6

but audiences aren't tuning in nearly as much as they once did. And it's unclear if they'll find an audience on streaming. Ben had some strong thoughts on how powerful these shows can still be,

1:10.8

especially on social media. And his Grammys rebounded from the COVID shows to 12.4 million

1:16.0

viewers. It's good for him. Now Ben's producing another big show, and it's a bittersweet one for him

1:20.7

and his team. After eight years, the late late show with James Corden is airing its final episode on

1:25.7

Friday. CBS has said that the Late Late Show franchise will end with Corden.

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