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or a growing enterprise managing vendor risk, Banta makes it quick, easy and scalable. And I'm not to say that because I work here. Get started today at banta.com. All right, folks, so I've been on a book tour for my brand new bestseller lions and scavengers, and we had some interesting moments with people who disagree. We're going to go through them right now. This video is sponsored by our friends at PDS Debt. So one of the places that we went to was the breakfast club, and it was wonderful. I mean, everybody in the room was very nice. Charlemagne is a super nice person. The rest of his crew, very kind. You know, it's always interesting to walk into a place where you know people are going to disagree because you never know just how sort of fraught it's going to be.

And this wasn't that. I thought that it was a great conversation, really thorough conversation that ranged across a variety of issues. Here's a little bit of it. You believe in banning abortions, right? I'm pro-life, yes. Even in cases of incest and rape? Yes. Why? Because this is sort of a fundamental definitional question. if you believe life begins at conception,

then regardless of the source of the life, it now has an independent interest in life.

So that is not to minimize the tremendous evil of rape or incest.

I believe rape should be executed, frankly, or chemically castrated at best.

But that's sort of a different

question from the independent source of life and whether, again, it gets back to definitions.

And this conversation tends to be either you're on one side of that or the other. If you don't

believe life begins at conception, then obviously you believe abortion is acceptable in a wide

variety of circumstances. If you believe it's an independent life deserving of protection, then you believe it's an independent life deserving of protection. Norah, what do you think about that? I'm just, that's a woman. I think that a woman should be able to choose to do what she wants to do wherever she decides to do it. I personally, I believe that women should be able to abort babies if they want to, if they feel like that's what they need to do. Do you have a time limit on that out of curiosity? I mean, I think it should happen earlier on if it were me making a decision for myself. But I think it's up to the woman in what she's personally experiencing and what she personally went through. I really think it's a per person thing. That's why I think it's crazy when you have like these structures and these like people who are not in that, that, uh, that situation making the decision

for the woman of what you can and can't do because it's very like per person. Okay, so one of the

things that's fascinating here and I ask her further clarifying questions because again, I think

that in order to have a solid, useful discussion, you have to

be clear on the other person's position, is I asked her if she had any point at which abortion

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