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Welcome to RealGM Radio. I am Daniel Rue host, and so happy to have you with us for this episode.

My guest is a first time Real GM Radio guest, actually the first time the two of us have ever been on a podcast together, and that's Ben Taylor.

He does great work. I like to think of it as thinking basketball in all of its forms. So he has a podcast. He has great video work, which you can check out on YouTube and then a

Patreon, which largely runs through Backpix.com. And we had an awesome conversation. It's very

hard to describe because we went in so many different directions. But really, it's about team building

and championships and what we're looking forward to in the next year and the post-world describe because we went in so many different directions. But really, it's about team building and

championships and what we're looking forward to in the next year and the post warriors and a lot of

that kind of stuff and what teams are exciting for this year. And really great conversation

runs about an hour and a half. And then after that, you can listen to a conversation I had with

Dave Mason at bedonline.ag. We talked about

a really fascinating week two in the NFL from his perspective in terms of the Pat's

Dolphins line, the Sam Darnold stuff, and a couple other little things. And then after that,

I decided to take a few minutes and talk about Sean Livingston. And right before Ben,

right before Ben and I were going to record was

Sean's announcement that he was going to retire. And so it didn't really seem like something

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