All right, folks, well, a couple of weeks ago, I had the chance to visit Yale, and I had a sit-down conversation with one of the students about October 7th. This was on the anniversary of October 7th. Also took some questions from the audience. Here's what it sounded like. We are now moving into the Q&A portion of the evening. If you have a question for Mr. Shapiro, please come forward, come to the back of the auditorium, circle your way around, and stand behind this yellow line right here, and we'll be able to get your question. It doesn't have to be on this topic. Obviously, it can be on anything. And also, I do have a general rule, which is if you disagree, you can raise your hand and go to the front. But you actually have to disagree. Don't do it just to get to the front.

Mr. Shapiro, thank you for sharing your thoughts tonight.

America, our country, fought a protracted global war on terror for two decades. Just as you have mentioned today, we have faced the ethical problems of war,

political problems, opposition, support for it. But one day seemed to lay sacred in our country,

the day of remembrance on 9-11. And even whether you were for or against the war,

that day seemed to be a day where we remembered, thousands of civilians, firefighters, and police lost their lives. Given that today is October 7th, what do you think the ethical consequences are of politicizing today as a day of anti-war

protest and not a day of remembrance for the people who lost their lives this faithful day?

So frankly, I think that we celebrate 9-11 wrong.

I think that the idea that 9-11 ought to just be a sad day in which you remember that

some people died in a tower somewhere as a congresswoman from Minnesota might say. I think that that is a,

that is a grave error. It should be a reminder of the enemies that the United States faced on 9-11

continues to face today. We seem to have forgotten about all of those lessons, which is why I think that we're doomed to repeat similar instances. I don't tend to believe that acts of terror are equivalent to deaths by natural tragedy. I think that it's one thing to hold the commemoration for a natural tragedy. Something horrible happens in life, and we all mourn that horrible thing happening. I think that when you're talking about an act of war, which is what 9-11 was, or if you're

talking about Pearl Harbor, or if you're talking about October 7th, the idea that you can treat

that in the same way that you would, say, a day of remembrance for people who died from

a flu pandemic, I think that that is wrongheaded and foolish,

because if you can't take away the lesson

from October 7th or 9-11

or any other day in remembrance

of the victims of terrorism,

that terrorism is evil,

that it ought to be fought,

that those who believe in the ideology

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