Do you feel slightly depressed that this is the choice that your country has got, Biden Trump?

People say, well, look, he spent years saying, lock her up about Hillary Clinton. There's now

footage of him saying it multiple times. Locker up, lock her up. And then he didn't do it.

If you take everything that Donald Trump says at pure face value, you're a fool. The truth is,

if you're attacking terrorists

in the area of a refugee camp, this is going to keep happening. Then you are against literally

all retaliation or military action that Israel has taken. My team have been desperate to try and get

you to debate Norman Finkelstein. It's definitely not a no. It's also not a guess.

Two seismic global stories have divided our audience, our panelists and wider public opinion more than I can remember in modern times.

The first is a criminal conviction of former President Donald Trump.

The second is the deadly Israeli incursion into Rafa and the growing international demands for a ceasefire in Gaza.

My next guest is passionate and polarizing views on both.

I expect will strongly agree on at least some of it, on the other.

Well, let's wait and see.

Returning to Uncensor of a Daily Wire editor emeritus, Ben Shapiro.

Ben, great to see you.

YouTube, Pierce.

I feel like a bit like when Elvis died.

I'll always remember where I was when Trump got convicted.

The fact that an American president, one of the only 46 people to hold that office,

actually turned into a criminal felon before our eyes.

When you actually heard the verdict, what was your immediate gut reaction?

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