Welcome to the Dispatch Podcast. I'm Steve Hayes. We have two guests on today's episode.

First, we will talk with Senator Ben Sass, Republican from Nebraska about Ukraine and

of this American political moment. Joe Biden's State of the Union address and more.

And then we'll talk with Barbara Comstock, who represented Northern Virginia in the US Congress

from 2015 to 2019, the 10th congressional district. Miss Comstock also serves as an advisor

to Adam Kinziger's country first pack. We'll have a discussion with her about the State

of the Union as well. And the fighting inside the Republican Party and what comes next.

And before we jump in, we had some audio issues at the end of my interview with Ben Sass.

We've decided to include them despite some of the challenges because we think the discussion

was worth fighting through.

Senator Sass, welcome to the Dispatch Podcast.

Thanks for being invited to the U.K.U. TV.

Of course, of course, I want to start with the State of the Union last night and align

from President Biden that really jumped out at me when he said it. Now, I'll just read

it briefly. He said, throughout our history, we've learned this lesson. When dictators

did not pay a price for their aggression, they caused more chaos. They keep moving and

the costs and the threats to America and the world keep rising.

Have we, in fact, learned our lesson? Steve, I am trying real hard the last eight days

to stay as far from anything that can sound partisan as possible because I think this needs

to be a national moment where we all try to move together. But the State of the Union was

just weird. It seemed to be plucked out of the Internet of people tuning into a war,

but with no sense of history and no sense of the future. And I don't just mean like,

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