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🗓️ 29 August 2021
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How our 20 Year War on Terror Distracted Us from Climate, China, Social Media, and Democracy
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0:11.0 | Hey, everybody. |
0:14.4 | As I record this, it's Friday, August 27th, 2021. |
0:19.4 | Today's podcast is a conversation with Ben Rhodes, who is Deputy National Security Advisor |
0:25.1 | for President Obama, and we talk about Afghanistan, of course, our 20-year war on terror, |
0:31.4 | where we took our eye off the ball in our foreign policy and ignored things like climate |
0:37.3 | and China and democracy, all to our and to the world's detriment. |
0:44.0 | Then yesterday, the terrorist attack at the Kabul Airport, leaving a lot of people dead, |
0:49.4 | including 13 American servicemen. |
0:53.8 | As I say, this podcast is like the daily, without the resources of the New York Times, and |
0:58.9 | that's a joke. |
0:59.9 | It's just me and Peter, and we have the very talented Roselia Engineering in New York with |
1:05.7 | us today here. |
1:08.0 | We recorded with Ben Rhodes on Wednesday before the attack. |
1:11.7 | Ben Warren's about the possibility of that attack in our conversation. |
1:17.2 | This is just another very sad day in this war, a very tragic exit. |
1:24.1 | Ben and I discuss the various miscalculations and intelligence failures that led to the |
1:30.8 | chaos we've seen in Kabul. |
1:33.8 | I, of course, was a US Senator from 2009 to 2018 and 2009, as we were ramping up the surge |
1:41.4 | in Afghanistan. |
1:42.4 | I went with Michigan Senator Carl Levin, Carl, who was a great senator. |
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