Welcome to the Vergecast, the flagship podcast of Number Go Up and also Down.

I'm your friend David Pierce, and I am sitting in my backyard on sprinkler duty.

So a thing you've probably already guessed about me, given my entire deal, is that I'm not good at keeping plants alive.

I can't remember how tall the grass is supposed to be when you

mow it. I don't exactly know which of my plants is which and how often I'm supposed to water any

of them. But we had some work done on the backyard this weekend. They put down some sod. They made the

backyard bigger. It all looks great. I'm very excited about it. And the guy gave me a speech where he was like,

David, you have to water this thing like you would not believe for the next 10 days. So for the next 10 days, I live out here in the backyard, just moving sprinklers around. This is apparently what I do now. Anyway, we have a really fun show coming up. First, we're going to talk to Ben McKenzie, who is an actor and author, and you might know him as Ryan Atwood from the O.C. He just made a documentary called Everyone is Lying to You for Money about kind of his descent into the crypto world and sort of his own descent into madness as a result. It's a really fun documentary with a lot of really interesting reporting and lessons about crypto. So he came on the show to talk about how he feels

about crypto now. Then the Virges V Song is going to come on and talk about her, I think, 18-month

journey testing continuous glucose monitors and actually kind of her own descent into madness.

We're doing descents into madness here on the Vergecast today while I sit and descend into

madness moving sprinklers around.

We also have a really fun hotline, really fun show today. All of that is coming up in just a second, but first, I'm dead serious. My phone reminder just went off, and I have to go move the sprinkler. This is the Vergecast. We'll be right back. Support for the show comes from MongoDB. If you're a developer stuck fixing bottlenecks, instead of building the

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