Spiegel and Holmes. So I've been waiting to say, and the stars are Spiegel and Holmes, Chicago.

Afternoons on the score. Yeah, he is a mastermind. And so being able to have him, sometimes he's on the headset.

And it's like, this is a great play call right here. Here we um and and so uh he did that today and um and

and he says that to me um and so he has all belief and confidence in himself um and then you know

those little things actually provide confidence you know uh when you're about to go call to play

and um you know you line up and you're like oh oh um and then the play actually works and so uh belief in trust in him, the faith in him that he's dialing it up and he does every time.

Let's talk about Ben Johnson.

Because Caleb Williams does.

Every day he wakes up excited to be coached by Ben Johnson.

Ben Johnson's a superstar as a head coach.

You know, I believe that.

Me and Peanut Tillman were Meshpucha, as they say, in this regard.

Coach is a superstar.

So that means he's, you know, as we learn about him, there's stuff that you tend to like.

Or there's certainly a curiosity.

That's for damn sure.

I'd like to know how that man ticks.

It's interesting too, because often what happens is we think about some of the idiosyncratic stuff with coaches in retrospect, and we tend to then

glorify it.

Like, there are still people, I think, terribly dressing up like Dicka and thinking that just

putting a mustache on makes them like, oh, I'm a little overweight and I'm putting on a mustache.

I'm Mike Dicka. They showed a thin guy with the mustache who just wasn't even trying. Yeah, you're not even trying. You got the sweater vest and all that stuff. Hasn't it become of just like this is what we do and it's not really even about Dittka anymore? Like it's got mixed with the super fans? I'm sure that it's like that.

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