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The a16z Show

Ben Horowitz: RSI, Crypto as AI Money, & Classified Physics

The a16z Show

a16z

Business, Software Eating The World, Culture, Innovation, Disruption, Entrepreneurship, Science, Technology

4.21.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2026

⏱️ 108 minutes

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Summary

Moonshots host Peter Diamandis speaks with Ben Horowitz, cofounder and general partner at a16z, alongside regular cohosts Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin, and Dr. Alexander Wissner-Gross, about whether AI can or should be paused, what happened when Horowitz told a Biden administration official that regulating AI means regulating math, why crypto is the natural money for AI agents, and why the gap between AI capability and societal adoption may be wider than people think. This episode originally aired on Peter Diamandis's Moonshots podcast.

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0:00.0

A large number of departures from XAI, from the founding team.

0:04.0

It wasn't clear to me whether they were fired or whether they left, you know, because they all leave on good terms.

0:08.0

I don't know the answer to that question. I will say that it's...

0:14.0

Recursive self-improvement RSI is the real trigger for the singularity, and it happened a while ago.

0:20.0

We're exiting the Industrial Age permanently as we're talking.

0:23.6

We're obviously going into a new world.

0:25.6

Like with the Industrial Revolution, I think it's scary at times to think about.

0:31.6

I think we have 150,000 people per day dying on Earth,

0:35.6

and I think AI is probably the best chance we have at stopping that.

0:40.2

Whoever is building the AI has a lot of control about how society is going to work. So I do think

0:44.9

there's real danger along these lines of attempting to pause. When are we going to have discovery

0:51.2

by an AI of something as significant as relativity on its own.

0:56.5

I don't think it's the next 12 months. I think it's...

1:01.0

Now that's a moonshot, ladies and gentlemen.

1:05.1

Ben Horowitz argued directly to the Biden administration officials that regulating AI means regulating math.

1:11.3

Their response?

1:12.6

We did that in the 40s with nuclear physics, and some of it is still classified today.

1:17.2

Horowitz sees the real danger, not an AI moving too fast, but in U.S. regulations slowing progress

1:22.4

enough that China ends up leading how AI reshapes society.

1:26.2

The Biden administration's final AI chip export controls

1:29.0

required government approval for GPU sales to most of the world.

1:33.0

This conversation previously aired on Peter Diamandis' Moonshot's podcast

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