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Welcome to Real Jam Radio. I'm Daniel where you're your host. So happy to be with you for this episode. I took a week off with everything that was going on. And with the beginning of free agency is often something that gets dominated by Dunkton. But I wanted to get a kind of a bigger picture perspective on it and talk to Ben Gulliver of Sports Illustrated,

one of my favorite people to go through the big picture stuff with.

And so we talk about the biggest signings all over the place, what we're looking forward

to in Summer League, because Las Vegas Summer League is going to start on Friday, and numerous other

topics.

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