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🗓️ 18 October 2025
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Canadian distance runner and Olympian Ben Flanagan is finally making his marathon debut at the Toronto Waterfront Marathon this Sunday. Fresh off his 2024 season that included his Olympic debut in the 5000m, Flanagan opens up about the challenges of transitioning to the marathon, including an injury-shortened build in 2025. He’s focused on winning the Canadian Championship and using this race as a launching pad for his marathon future.
Jon Green, Flanagan's coach, also joins us live in Toronto to share about guiding him towards his marathon debut. The two share a behind-the-scenes look at what it takes to step up to the marathon and the mindset of an elite runner in transition.
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Host: Chris Chavez | @chris_j_chavez on Instagram
Guest: Ben Flanagan | @ben_flanagan on Instagram
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| 0:32.6 | Why Toronto? |
| 0:37.1 | For a number of reasons, you know, like being able to run in Canada is always awesome. I run Ottawa 10K plenty of times. Um, I got to run Toronto, uh, the year they didn't have the marathon. They did it to 10K here. But in general, like, I really don't get to, is it, can you guys hear me all right on this? Okay, cool. Um, I don't really get to run in Canada as much as I would like. So to have an amazing, you know, high profile race in Canada, if it aligns with the schedule, I want to do it. And then more so with the debut, I thought it just aligned really well with my personal goals. I thought this was a place |
| 1:11.8 | where I could really practice staying patient, not kind of get sucked into some distractions |
| 1:17.8 | that could leave to maybe more significant mistakes. A course is good. You know, it's not, I know |
| 1:23.8 | conditions can be tough, but generally I felt like this was a good place to stay disciplined on the first one and try to come out of it feeling like, okay, the next one I can go faster. |
| 1:35.1 | Yeah, so what are some of those goals that you've kind of set for yourself? |
| 1:38.2 | And then how did we arrive of that, you know, over the course of 14, 16 weeks, however long as build has been? |
| 1:44.1 | Yeah, the main goal is to win the Canadian championship. |
| 1:46.6 | You know, anytime there's a Canadian title on the line, I want to win. |
| 1:50.9 | And I feel like it's a very realistic but challenging goal, which is kind of a perfect fit for any type of goal setting. |
| 1:59.4 | The time I'm not so worried about, which I'm now coming to terms with, because when you |
| 2:05.1 | watch a whole year of marathons, all you can do is compare yourself to, you know, specifically |
| 2:11.0 | guys like Rory Linklater, who's running amazing right now. |
| 2:14.6 | And Rory and I are just in, like different places, you know, I was a very experienced |
| 2:17.9 | marathoner. So I'm trying to take the edge off and not get so worried about the time and let |
| 2:23.4 | that come a bit more naturally because, you know, the last quarter of a 5K not going well is very |
| 2:29.7 | different. The last quarter of a marathon not going well. So I want to play it safe, generally speaking, |
| 2:36.6 | while staying competitive and not worry so much about the clock. |
| 2:40.4 | John, how do you go about approaching goal setting with your athletes? And then where does |
| 2:45.0 | someone like Ben, you know, what are the questions that come up ahead of their first ever |
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