Ben Crump says 'Worse Than a Lie' is a legal thriller wrapped in Black culture
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| 0:00.0 | Hi there, I'm Melissa Adwarnie, and this is NPR's book of the day. Today's book is a legal |
| 0:07.9 | thriller that you will not be able to put down. A black ex-police officer is shot 10 times by |
| 0:14.7 | white officers in Chicago. The book's hero, attorney Bo Lee Cooper, must find out what actually |
| 0:20.8 | happened in order to seek |
| 0:22.6 | justice. The novel is called Worse Than a Lie, written by civil rights lawyer Ben Crump. He was |
| 0:28.4 | inspired by real-life cases he's worked on, and he spoke with NPR's Aisha Roscoe. |
| 0:34.3 | In his debut novel, the civil rights attorney Benjamin Crump imagines a horrific crime that feels all too real. |
| 0:42.3 | A black man named Hollis Montrose gets stopped by white police officers while driving in Chicago. |
| 0:49.6 | The man compliantly answers the officer's questions, but suddenly the officers yank him from his car, |
| 0:56.6 | kick him in the ribs, then they shoot him ten times. |
| 1:00.3 | It wasn't fair. None of it was fair. How could so much be taken from him without provocation, |
| 1:08.2 | as if his life held no meaning, inconsequential, like that of an insect, caught in a gale, |
| 1:16.4 | whipped and thrashed until splattering on a car's windshield. |
| 1:22.2 | Ben Crump's new book is called Worse Than a Lie. It follows a winding perilous path to justice for Hollis Montrose. |
| 1:30.4 | Ben Crump joins me now. Good morning. Good morning, Queen. Well, thank you very much. |
| 1:36.6 | Hollis Montrose is an older black man who is a respected former police officer and he has a loving wife and family, |
| 1:46.2 | but he becomes the victim of police brutality himself. |
| 1:51.4 | What were you trying to illustrate through this characterization? |
| 1:56.5 | Certainly, Aisha, this situation, Hollis Montrose, this black police officer, you can't |
| 2:03.5 | find a better citizen. And that was intentional because I know oftentimes when you have |
| 2:10.5 | cases of police brutality, they try to assassinate the victim's character, Breonna Taylor, Ahmad, Aubrey, George, Florida, |
| 2:20.7 | and the list goes on and on. But I wanted to have a character who was a good person through and |
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