Hello everyone and welcome to Talk Nurdy. Today is Monday, May 3rd 2021 and I'm the host of the show Kara Santa Maria and before we dive into this week's

episode I do want to thank those who continue to make

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I keep you know turning through the show with the support of my assistant Noel

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All right, so let's talk about this week's episode.

I had the opportunity to chat with Michelle Nihouse.

And Michelle is a biologist turned science writer who focuses on conservation and global change. She currently works as a project editor at

The Atlantic, where she works with writers on a series called Life Up Close. She's also

written for a ton of different outlets like the New Yorker, National Geographic,

New York Times magazine, etc. etc.

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