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Doctrine and Devotion

Belonging Before Believing

Doctrine and Devotion

Joe Thorn & Jimmy Fowler

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 August 2017

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

We received an email recently that asked us to talk about the idea of someone "belonging before believing." It is said a lot these days, and sometimes it comes with bad theological baggage. Other times it merely expresses a subjective experience. Can someone really belong before they believe? Jojo and Fofo throw up the mics to talk about it. Plus, Jimmy forgets his wallet, and Joe learns what a red-eye is. 10 minutes of banter. Be warned.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Doctrine and devotion.

0:02.0

The podcast, blah, beepipapa, just up.

0:05.0

All right, come on, take 15. Welcome to doctrine and devotion, a podcast exploring Christian faith and practice from a

0:24.4

Reformed Baptist perspective. My name is Joe Thorne. I'm the new pastor of Redeemer

0:28.2

Fellowship at St. Charles Illinois. And I'm Jimmy Fowler, Elder Candidate at Redeemer Fellowship.

0:33.0

I have to say Redeemer Fellowship.

0:35.0

It goes together.

0:36.0

Yeah.

0:37.0

Man, uh, so Jimmy, when you walked in...

0:40.0

Oh, stop it.

0:41.0

When you, like, so Jimmy and I were were like we're planning like we don't have any

0:43.4

meetings tonight Wednesday night so let's go ahead and record a podcast.

0:46.6

Let's do it and so and Jimmy kept texting me saying like hey man I'm sorry I got

0:51.7

got work things are going on you didn't say much

0:53.8

more than that and then when Jimmy walks and I didn't really respond to a lot of

0:56.9

other people so I want to apologize to everybody else that's been

0:59.2

texting me they don't listen so Jimmy walks in and No, they listen.

1:03.0

Jimmy walks in and the only thing I can say is, what's up, Wrinkles?

1:07.0

Because Home Boy is his shirt is wrinkled.

1:09.0

His hair was disheveled.

1:10.0

He came in looking like he had a a thousand pound pack on his back.

1:14.4

He looked like he had been put to the ringer. He was like,

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