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Hello, it's 965 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

Today we're going to talk to a man called Elliot Higgins.

I've always really said I would really like to stop working on Russia,

but they keep on doing more stuff that's worth investigating, so there we are.

He is a towering presence and some say the godfather in the field of

Ocent which is open source intelligence as we know it today and what it means is basically finding out the things that people, the governments maybe do not want us to know or disproving the lies that they want us to believe.

For example, Elliot Higgins and his team called Bellingcat. that they showed the root that a Russian missile launcherchre took from Russia and into

Ukraine where it shot down a Malaysian airliner on flight

MH17 back in July 2014 and then went back to Russia.

And they also unmasked the people who poisoned and tried to kill Russian opposition

figurehead Alexi Navalny in 2020 which he did survive although I know you know he died this year.

And he does all this not by tricks or by covert methods, he does it all by stuff that is posted online.

There's so much to talk to him about, especially on the work they're doing on the conflict in Ukraine.

And make sure you stay listening right to the end

because we're also going to talk about reports that North Koreans, many of them,

thousands of them, are potentially joining the Russian army to get involved in this conflict.

This is Ukraine Kost.

Ukraine Kost from Bivis.

Evil cannot be trusted.

Ask pre-Gosin.

You are not dealing with a politician, but with a bloody monster.

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