That marvelous moment for me, in the book when I'm talking about,

what do we teach our children about love?

What is the miseducation we give them?

And part of the miseducation we give them is that you can violate someone

and then say you love them.

Which doesn't mean to say that we are not saying in the discipline is important

because discipline is crucial to any true love.

That we have boundaries, that we set boundaries.

So that I think part of what's happened to us as a nation is we have confused discipline

with a kind of blind obedience to authoritarianism,

whether it's children to parents or us to a government or a nation that is acting in a way

that is autocratic and wrong.

The people, well love has to do with respect when we look at children,

particularly the violence of children against children in our nation right now.

Part of what we're seeing is a lack of care, a lack of respect, a lack of understanding.

We're seeing envy.

I mean envy is a crucial emotion connected to greed.

And that you want to destroy what you envy when you have a ten-year-old kid wanting

to destroy another kid because that kid is more popular or that is something deep and

profound, that is a deep and profound lovelessness.

And we can't just talk about it in relationship to what parents are doing.

We have to talk about it in terms of what we have been saying as a nation.

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